This week’s discussion was unusually meandering. We began with announcements (to include the long-awated revelation by UES elder Matt Masten that he will be pursuing his graduate education at Northwestern University) and officer nominations. After (finally) pinning down our end-of-semester banquet locale (it will be Thursday of reading week, if anyone is wondering, at Merlion Restaurant, 6 o’clock p.m.), we began with the question: Are property rights human rights?
MM: No human rights exist in nature.
CW: If there are human rights, then property rights are one of them. The Declaration of Independence mentions inalienable rights, and property rights should be among them. Except for intellectualy property rights, which should be abolished.
BL: Locke said man has certain properties: life, liberty, and estate.
VR: Considering God has not spoken to us…
[General discontentious uproar]
VR: …we have no proof that we have rights to property, so I think anybody can take anything from anyone at any time.
Bryan W: It wouldn’t matter what God said if he could not enforce it.
Juan: Products of your labor belong to you.
JN: The essay question asked why property rights have fewer champions than human rights. Do they? I don’t necessarily think so. Even recently, you have people (eg. DeSoto) listing property rights as essential to human welfare.
VR: Isn’t taxation a violation of that right, then?
CW: That’s different. There is a little-known statute that allows someone in another country to sue someone else in American courts. It was originally meant to be used against, say, pirates, but now people are wanting to use it to protect labor rights (the right to organize, etc.).
BL: As for why there are fewer advocates, it’s that the intelligentsia is dominated by the left-wing and property rights get in the way of government intervention. They embody the idea that a person can do what he pleases, and people find that to be a problem.
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